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"Lure police into an ambush" is quite a stretch. It's quite normal to do noise demonstrations outside jails/prisons to show solidarity with the captives, the captives will often times knock on the windows to communicate back. In fact there were noise demonstrations outside the Delaney Hall ICE jail in New Jersey just this month, which you may have heard about. The mischaracterization of fireworks as "explosives" is also a huge stretch by the government in order to pursue their antifa conspiracy.


Fireworks are explosives, and people are hurt by misusing them. Just because they are less harmful than grenades doesn't mean that they are harmless, and throwing them at someone is clearly with the intention of harming them. And well, shooting them with rifles is also clearly intended to harm them.


Reducto ad absurdum. Up there with declaring Placards or Air Horns as 'offensive rioting equipment' as people can (and are) hurt through their misuse, and arguing that just because they're less harmless than an ICBM doesn't mean they're harmless.

Fireworks are first and foremost Pyrotechnics - it's only a specific subset of fireworks that contain any sort of 'explosive' element. Short of Simpsons-esque escapades involving cherrybombs and toilets, or m-80s and mailboxes, this use-case simply doesn't exist in real-life. Indeed both cherrybombs and m-80s are federal felonies to possess in the U.S. without an explosives license, alongside anything with 50 milligrams or more of flash powder.

Tannerite sits amongst dozens of other explosives you can buy OTC in the US with a drivers licence - one which generally necessitates shooting at with a rifle to ignite. Plenty of videos on youtube of enthusiasts blowing up a car or similar sized object using it.


How many people get injured each year in the US by Placards or Air Horns? And then answer the same question about fireworks...


The fireworks were a distraction tactic. It wasn’t the main tool in the attempt to main injure and kill. Things went sideways for them; however the intent was there. I think that’s what the issue was. Obviously the feds always go overboard with charges in order that there be a higher likelihood of conviction and long term punishment for the convicted.


All this hypothetical grandstanding is so obnoxious. Have you seen the video? There was just a few fireworks, regular ones purchased from a roadside stand. They went into the air, FAR from the facility. There was no damage. It's called a noise demonstration. The prisoners were watching from inside and cheering in response. Please go outside on the 4th of July while people are setting off fireworks and touch grass.


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> Or are you saying you'd be happy to have one of these shot at your face?

Given the choice between the fireworks and an actual grenade? Yeah, absolutely.


A terrorist likely has easier access to the former, and it suffices.


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You can blind someone with a fork, but if the feds arrested you while you had one in you backpack and claimed you were carrying a weapon, that would be a ridiculous mischaracterization.


I can smash your head with a MacBook Pro and it might cause you life threatening conditions. Does that mean carrying a MacBook Pro is a weapon?


So can rubber bullets and tear gas canisters. Can't expect the government to act lawlessly and there not be pushback.


This is like insisting a butter knife is a knife


People lose limbs all the time with fireworks


OK, July 4 is coming up, get ready to throw hundreds of thousands of people in jail for decades for setting off "explosives", right? Most fireworks, you can literally stand on top of them while they are going off and not be injured. I've seen videos of police doing it while just wearing light body armor, unphased. Stop being ridiculous. These laws about explosives were intended to be used for military-style weapons.


Yeah sure, if you hold the biggest firework you can legally buy in a closed fist something bad will happen, otherwise it's very unlikely... You're far more likely to cause damage by throwing rocks


Do you understand this is a non-sequitur or do I need to repeat the point of the butter knife?

Edit: NM I'm just gonna call it: this is by far the dumbest bad faith argument for why someone should be in prison for 30 years I have ever heard. You're clearly just a provocateur.


Darwin awards.


The cops actually shoot people in the face and you're afraid of some fireworks, while wearing full body armor? BS


If you don’t think fireworks are explosives you’re buying the wrong ones.


Or the right ones. Maybe celebrating a holiday or whatever doesn't need explosives...


I bet you’re real fun at parties.




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