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If I heard correct, Microsoft wants to add openssh support to Windows 10, server and client.


http://blogs.msdn.com/b/powershell/archive/2015/06/03/lookin...

That is correct, adding a OpenSSH server and a client with Powershell was announced last month.

It's good to see Microsoft also contributing to the project, so many users of OpenSSH do not.


Microsoft are adding OpenSSH support but NOT in Windows 10 RTM, and likely not this calendar year in general. The first Microsoft OS to receive OpenSSH support is likely Windows Server 2016 (or whatever name they finalise it on).

I just don't want people to run up Windows 10 on July 31st and then ask "but where is OpenSSH?!" Windows 10 might receive OpenSSH support in the future, but you'll be waiting a while. They only just announced the effort, engineering may not have even started yet in earnest.


This has been possible with Cygwin for many years.


Yes but you don't get Powershell. If you're even remotely into actual scripting on Unix you'll love Powershell's consistency and separation of data/presentation.


I spent fifteen years scripting on Unix for a living. I consider powershell to be garbage. Lack of 'separation of data/presentation' is what made unix ubiquitous. It's also what made HTML ubiquitous. I think it's great that powershell is getting full, native ssh support -- because then I can manage windows computers in a non-ridiculous way, regardless of what PL wankery Microsoft shoved into the syntax.


> Lack of 'separation of data/presentation' is what made unix ubiquitous.

I think standardization and easy scripting made Unix ubiquitous. Making a regex to search for start time in ps output did not.

> It's also what made HTML ubiquitous.

Most HTML on the internet uses CSS for presentation.

> I think it's great that powershell is getting full, native ssh support -- because then I can manage windows computers in a non-ridiculous way

So it's non ridiculous, but you'd still be using Powershell, which you just said is garbage. I'm not following.

You seem /really/ pissed off. I'm not sure why.


> I think standardization and easy scripting made Unix ubiquitous. Making a regex to search for start time in ps output did not.

So was it easy or not?

> Most HTML on the internet uses CSS for presentation.

...now. That was extremely not the case during the period that HTML grew popular.

> So it's non ridiculous, but you'd still be using Powershell, which you just said is garbage. I'm not following.

It's non ridiculous because my control scripts can be written in a real scripting language, dispatching generated powershell commands to windows machine over the same protocol that real computers use. Powershell itself isn't really the attraction in this case.

> You seem /really/ pissed off. I'm not sure why.

I'm not sure why you would think that. They're just opinions. I can consider something garbage without getting emotional about it. Actual garbage in a garbage can, for instance.


The difference is that I can't install Cygwin on every workstation I sit down on. I can usually use Powershell though.




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